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Discussing Jackie Daytona, sex, dancing, Jeff’s death and more with ‘What We Do In The Shadows’ stars Matt Berry and Natasia Demetriou

What we do in the shadowsThe fourth season is finally here, and our four favorite Staten Island vampires are ready for another host of supernatural misadventures. When we last left our heroes, reborn energy vampire Colin Robinson was left in Laszlo’s care, and Nadja, Nandor, and Guillermo return to find the mansion in ruins. I spoke with stars Matt Berry and Natasia Demetriou (Laszlo and Nadja, respectively) about kids eating out of dog bowls, Doug Jones’ torso, the tragedy of a dead Jeff, and the possibility of seeing Jackie Daytona again .

[To Matt] At the end of Season 3, Laszlo initially stays behind, of course, to raise young ‘Colin Robinson’ into someone hopefully not boring, and he learns in a weird way to respect Colin for what it is, in a sense. Tell me about Laszlo’s journey this season?

Matt Berry: Well, he’s basically immersed in dad work because there was no one else there, and he’d rather go lose the kid in a park or do something horrible like the one that he somehow chooses to raise it. The reason they chose Laszlo for this job is because he’s the most unlikely character of all that you would think would have any interest or ability to do this, so it was a lot of fun because it was, you know, kids doing the craziest things.

Like there’s one, and I’ll never forget that for the rest of my days, where one of the little kids had to eat cereal out of a dog bowl while we all cheered, and I remember when I did it, I thought, well, it’s safe to say I’ll never do something like that again, on any other show. It’s those kind of moments where you think “this is the craziest shit I’ve ever done”, and it’s so much fun, really.

[To Natasia] In this season, Nadja is the proud owner of a vampiric discotheque. You can tell how important this is by the way she supernaturally yells at any obstacle to her success. What does the club mean to her and why is it so important?

Natasia Demetriou: I think Nadja tasted the power of the vampiric disco. She has a flavor of fact [being] pretty good at, well, she thinks she’s pretty good, better than she actually is, at running. I think for her, she was like, ‘no, I want to do this. I want to have my own little mission. Laszlo has Colin, Nandor has his endless search for love. Everybody has [this varied] story, so I think it was very important for her to do that, and I think she loves it in a toxic way.

I don’t know if it’s okay for her to run a nightclub, but to me, it was the best thing in the world, ever. I couldn’t believe it when I got on set and they had the nightclub symbol ‘Nadja’, it was honestly heaven. I’ve said it before, but I find it so funny that Nadja and Laszlo love to dance anytime, no matter what. If there’s somebody, there’s a little music going on, they’re like, ‘oh, okay, I’m going to have a boogie’, so doing that with Matt in a nightclub was so fun.

That leads me neatly to my next question. When they meet again in the first episode of this season, where are they?

Mo: They’re tighter than they’ve ever been, it’s just that they have some pretty huge things to deal with… Nadja has this nightclub with staff and everything else that goes with it, and he must talk about it as a child. They’re tighter than they’ve ever been, they’re still as horny as each other and as horny as they’ve ever been, but they have a lot to do. So, you know, their days are full.

NA: They are wide open. They always make time for each other. There’s always this kind of constant that they’re absolutely obsessed with each other no matter what.

Nadja, I’m also continually bothered by Nadja’s inability to pronounce “Jeff”. Will we ever see the return of her ever-reincarnated lover?

NA: That’s something you should ask the writers, but he’s so awesome, Jake is so sweet to play with. I’m afraid the last time he appeared, I think Laszlo kind of finished him off. It was like ‘enough’.

MB: He left.

It’s good to have at least one good closure.

NA: I don’t know, that’s the beauty of the show. You absolutely never know, anyone could, you know, find a potion and come back to life, so you never know.

MB: It might not be this Jeff, but another Jeff could easily appear on us here.

Well, I’m here if you need me. What was the weirdest scene to shoot this season?

Mo: Well, I already answered that when they fed the poor kid out of the dog bowl. It was the weirdest thing, not only to film but to actually see, it’s one of the weirdest things I’ve ever had to watch.

NA: For me, it was probably something with Doug Jones, because he’s a torso. So you’re kind of on set, just like “Doug Jones is a torso,” and then there’s The Sire in the background. You’re like “oh, you know, there’s just a man in a crazy puppet suit” and we’re all talking about Comic-Con or something, but then you’re like “wait, he has no legs , right. Alright, sorry about that.

There are always days like this, where you think ‘what is this? What’s going on?’ So yes, it’s quite often like that. And then when the hellhound was there, it was like, ‘Oh, and there’s a dog, aaaand now there’s a kid. OK very good. Yes of course. I understood.’

Mo: Speaking of The Sire, it reminds me of something that I found very funny that day, and still do now. So the guy wearing the Sire costume, it’s really hot in there, and he needs those breaks. And what he was doing was he was having his “wrong lane” with me from behind, and then he was taking a break, and they were taking his hat off to him, and everyone was so serious around.

They were like, ‘Are you okay, are you going?’ ‘Yes, I am fine.’ ‘OK. Are you ready to go again? They’d put the hat on, so he’d be up there…just the weirdest thing. They took it so seriously, and he took it so seriously, when what he was really doing was… anyway, you can do it.

NA: There’s a lot of that because it’s so fantastic, and obviously… it’s work, so, you know, we’d have some really fun times, but sometimes we have to go through something, sometimes there’s a little health hazard so everyone has to be really serious and then you stop and look around and you think ‘there’s an adult in a child’s shoes’ [clothes] the.

I love it so much, which is part of the reason it’s my favorite show on TV right now. Guillermo has a real path to find himself in recent seasons, but how does that affect Nadia and Laszlo?

MB: Well, they don’t care about him. It doesn’t affect them at all. I don’t even think Laszlo can remember his name, because they’re pretty selfish, this couple, so he doesn’t enter their world at all until he talks, and then when he talks , they just want him to shut up . I mean, it’s the same with Nandor, they don’t really notice Nandor either. When he speaks, if you look at them, they never say “listen! They’ll listen to Colin Robinson because you can’t help it, because he’s got that kind of stuff.

NA: I think that’s why you can have so many different tangents and different scenarios, because in the real world, if they were human beings, everyone would be very concerned about each other, or kind of empathetic what the other goes through. But because they’re all selfish assholes, I think you can have these [stories] like we have a nightclub, we raise a kid, we try to find his wife… it’s big, but they’re just like ‘yeah, I don’t care.’

MB: That’s exactly what I mean, to answer your question. They won’t even notice that he’s on a personal journey, a literal kind of journey. They won’t care.

NA: Yes, that’s very true. They only care if it affects them negatively.

MB: I can’t help them, I can’t open the door or something, so that’s a problem. Other than that, they don’t care.

As evidenced by the fact that it was just left in the crate. Nobody cared.

MB: Exactly.

Matt, do you think we’ll ever see Jackie Daytona return?

MB: I do not know. “Tasia said something interesting in the last interview, that it would be nice if they ran away, but as a couple. Jackie Daytona had his Bonnie and Clyde, I think it would be interesting, if he were to somehow so come back, he would be there with his wife. It would be like a two-pronged attack.

NA: My disguise would be a cigarette or a bottle of beer or something.

What’s the hardest scene for that this season, for you two?

MB: For me personally, anything involving heights or very cold weather is usually difficult. I hate heights. And I can’t speak very fast in very cold weather.

NA: I think for me, I’m really happy because, you know, sometimes for the weather or whatever they do, the blood in Post, but there was a lot of real blood, like real. I mean, “real” fake blood, we didn’t use real… fucking hell, but yes, no, real blood. Blood doesn’t like continuity, and there was a lot of blood involved in the nightclub, so it was quite difficult because once you’re covered, once blood is everywhere, it’s not okay nowhere. You have to be very careful so I would say yes, just piles of blood everywhere. It’s a bit of a nightmare, to be honest.

What we do in the shadows‘ Season 4 premieres today on FX.